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CA vs. AZ: How to grow plants that like California better


 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:56 am    Post subject: CA vs. AZ: How to grow plants that like California better Reply with quote

From what I understand is that AZ and CA climates are kinda similar, but the defining factor is the nonexistant humidity and frost to the point you can't grow it even with frost cloth. Frost cloth is normal, but some (mention specifically below) can't even get a glimpse of frost. Higher clay in soil, initial shade and more water are normal as well. I will post a later topic concerning specific details of each; they cannot live on these tips alone. Use the keys Ctrl and 'F' to type in for your desired plant.
Here is a list of CA plants with info on the problems it faces in AZ:
Mamey Sapote - frost sensitive, do not attempt if novice
Green Sapote - more conclusive info is needed on cold tolerance, do not attempt if novice
Jackfruit - frost sensitive (hardy to about 30-33F, while growth halts <50F), do not attempt if novice
Cherimoya - low humidity leads to impossible pollination, do not attempt if novice
Atemoya - see cherimoya
Sweetsop - see cherimoya, believe it or not sugar apple can take CA
Passionfruit - some shade, & can tolerate container see the entry on the main page
Mango - none, see the entry on the main page
White sapote - none, see the entry on the main page
Loquat - none, see the entry on the main page
Avocado - everything against it except frost, take all measures
Banana - wind protection if desired
Rose apple - none
Guava - none
Papaya - well draining mix, frost sensitive, do not attempt if novice
Suriname cherry - salt sensitive
Jamun - none
Citrus & wampi - none, frost protection on certain species
Persimmon - none, put in a cold microclimate
Prunus (almond, cherry, peach etc.) - low chill var. + cold microclimate
Pyrus (pear, asian pear) - low chill var. + cold microclimate
Fig - none; has invasive roots
Gooseberry - use some kind of pesticide
Jabuticaba - best for containers; salt sensitive
Sapodilla - best for container; very hardy and will go in ground too
Dragonfruit/Pitaya - best for container + ground
Lychee - VERY salt sensitive, do not attempt if novice
Longan - takes conditions a bit better than lychee, see lychee
Jujube/chinese date - none; look out for fruit flies
Pineapple - needs more humidity, do not attempt if novice
Japanese raisin tree - need more info, but seems hardy
Tamarind - none
Barbados cherry - none
Babaco - best for container and needs constant shade, see papaya
Kiwi (not hardy kiwi) - choose low chill var
Macadamia - need more info on fruiting, but grows fine
Mulberry - none
Grape - shade, trellis
Olive - none
Pawpaw - does best in colder, need more info
Pepino melon - likes some sort of pesticide
Sweet potato - can do container, even kind of invasive
Pistachio - does not fruit here, does best in colder
Tamarillo - lacking in flavor
Black sapote - VERY cold sensitive, lacking in flavor
Naranjilla - be prepared to stop being organic, needs TONS of pesticide, not worth it
Melon (watermelon & others)- start seed in the fall in a box, protect and plant in spring to avoid whitefiles in the late summer. Needs trellis or space for vine
Apple - low chill var
Peruvian apple cactus - none
Lemongrass - none
Wheatgrass - more info needed, but seems hardy
Hibiscus - frost protect if desired
Tropical bird of paradise - none
Plumeria - very cold sensitive
Starfruit - does well in container or ground, dislikes strong wind
Blueberry - do not attempt unless you use purely rainwater
Goji berry - plant in cold microclimate
Guamichil - none
Feijoa/Pineapple guava - cold microclimate
Neem - none
Sugarcane - none
Soursop/Guanabana - does not fruit, but grows leaves
Curry leaf - none
moringa - none
Che - choose a seedless var and cold microclimate
Canistel - need more info, reported to be drought tolerant in high rainfall areas
Ross sapote - see canistel
Lucuma - see canistel
Pomegranate - none

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See:
CFRG fruit facts: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/index.html
Cloudforest, a solely CA fruit forum: http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/
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