Phoenix Tropicals Gardening

[Bkaus]

Went to the Lowe’s by my house and they had a new shipment of Topical fruits, Avocados, Mangos, Sapote, Banana, Passion fruit, Guava, Loquat, and there was anywhere from 1 to 3 differnet kinds of each. I picked up a Mexican Avocado, Timotayo mango, Suebelle Sapote. They were all grafted and had new growth on them and were 5-6 feet tall in the pots.

[myamberdog]

Bkaus - let me know how your Timotayo fares. I had little growth out of
mine, and it looked like it suffered in the heat, but it may have been a watering problem. I dug it up last spring and potted it.

It was developed in Camarillo, CA where it's a much cooler coastal climate. I've decided to give mine to a friend in Santa Barbara to see
how it fares there.....


mdawg

[Bkaus]

Ok will keep you updated on the Timotayo.

[ajbcirc]

I had two out here in Phoenix in pots. Both weren't very vigorous. My Nam Doc Mai and Manila both outperformed it massively. I ended up giving one to a family member in Las Vegas who wanted to take a stab at growing mangoes. On Gardenweb, a gardener in Orange County last year reported that the flavor was average at best and had a questionable aftertaste.

[Bkaus]

Sounds like the Timotayo is not a very liked mango should have done a little more posting on what works in the desert. The Timotayo sounded good because of its cold tolerance and wasn’t worrying about the summer heat just figured on putting up a shade cloth.

Let the growth test began with the other mangos in my collection they are Haden, Manila, Tebow. We’ll see which one does the best over the summer.

[mariolo]

If u want the best mangos for our climate, the man to see its Don. He has the BEST trees in az. Salt resistant and aclimated to our hot dessert. All the plants from L or HD are from laverne nursery and for our climate are not the best due to the high ph in our water. With all that being said, instead of buying a fifty some dollar tree at Lowes, go tp shamus olearys in face book and youll get a tree thats way healthier and double in size than what you would get at the big box store and for almost same price

[phoenixtropicals]

I have trouble believing any mango is more cold tolerant than any other. I have tried many varieties and they all seem to have the same frost tolerance.

If anything affects a mango tree's ability to take the cold its the size of the tree so the more vigorous the tree the better. Also, being bushy seems to help a tree as well because it will branch closer to the ground and a dense canopy combined with being low will help protect the interior.

Seedlings are always more vigorous than grafts. Manilas are a type of seedling (being polyembryonic) that grows fairly true to type so they are really one of the easiest to have success with here. They also tend to be bushy if you top them off.

All the varieties I have found are salt sensitive. So I don't use chemical fertilizers on them at all. I mulch heavily and occasionally use the 5-1-1 fish emulsion. I wish I had flood irrigation because it seems to be better water then the tap water, but I am stuck with tap.

Hope this helps.

[ajbcirc]

[myamberdog]

now - it's a two way street back and forth between California
and Arizona, right? Someone from either state cannot bring
something like a mango across the border to the other state...

Or is it just a one way problem, from AZ to CA????


myamberdog

[phoenixtropicals]

There is no check from CA to AZ, but there is a check in the other direction. However, it is still not good to bring citrus from CA to AZ due to fears about spreading citrus greening.

[Kyle_Davis]

Hey guys, who is this "Don" guy with the local Mangos? Would like to meet him/see his tree's.

[phoenixtropicals]

You can contact him through facebook. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shamus-OLearys-Tropical-Fruit-Trees/469661096392272

[Kyle_Davis]

oh, I thought his name was Shamus. I've met him before, nice guy.